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Ex-Transnet treasurer asserts right not to incriminate himself at Zondo Inquiry

Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo initially said Phetolo Ramosebudi did not comply with his instructions to furnish the commission with a full affidavit.

A screengrab of Transnet’s former treasurer Phetolo Ramosebudi appearing at the state capture inquiry on 26 November 2020. Picture: SABC/YouTube

JOHANNESBURG - Transnet’s former treasurer Phetolo Ramosebudi is set to testify at the state capture commission of inquiry on Thursday morning but has already indicated that in some instances he will assert his right not to incriminate himself.

Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo initially said that Ramosebudi did not comply with his instructions to furnish the commission with a full affidavit.

But Ramosebudi’s lawyer, Advocate Dali Mpofu, said that while his client would answer some technical questions, he would assert his rights in other areas.

“Chair it's quite correct, what really should have been indicated there, even at that stage, was that he will be asserting his right. But we humbly ask the chair to condone such non-compliance on the understanding that a statement will be confirmed under oath and wherever it's vague, it really should have said that he will be asserting his Section 35 rights,” Mpofu said.

Once the session got started, Ramosebudi told the state capture commission that he did not personally know how much Gupta-linked Regiments Capital was paid by the Airports Company South Africa but he knew that it received payments.

Evidence leader Matthew Chaskalson asked him about it: "So it's not like you and Priscilla Mamelani were ever in the room with Regiments, who said 'Oh, we're taking R13 million fee on this deal?"

Zondo clarified: "You never had any discussion with her on the basis of which you can say you knew or you are saying is because she may have been involved in appointing them and she would know whether they were entitled to that?"

To which Ramosebudi replied: "On the basis that she appointed them? We never had that discussion."

WATCH: State capture commission proceedings

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