Gloves come off in McBride, Ntlemeza fight

McBride says new evidence shows that Ntlemeza and Mdluli conspired to oust Dramat.

YouTube screengrab of head of the Hawks, Major General Berning Ntlemeza.

PRETORIA - The fight has intensified between suspended the Independent Police Investigative Directorate (Ipid) head Robert McBride and Hawks boss Berning Ntlemeza, whose now been accused of plotting against the units former head Anwa Dramat.

The details are contained in a new affidavit submitted by McBride's co-accused Innocent Khuba.

McBride, Khuba and Matthews Sesoko appeared in the Pretoria Magistrates Court today on charges of fraud and defeating the ends of justice.

The three allegedly altered an investigation report to exonerate Dramat who had been implicated in the rendition of five Zimbabwean suspects in 2010.

McBride says new evidence shows that Ntlemeza and former crime intelligence boss Richard Mdluli allegedly conspired to oust Dramat.

"There is a conspiracy, the decision to move Dramat out of office was taken long before Dramat was even issued the notice to suspend."

The Hawks then allegedly tried to turn Khuba against McBride.

"The fact that a number of attempts were made, at least four, to Mr Khuba to falsely implicate myself and Mr Sesoko is an indication of the level to which members of the Gestapo wing of the Hawks can stop."

The Hawks declined to comment on these latest allegations.


Meanwhile, McBride has cautioned Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan about how to deal with the Hawks, which he describes as a Gestapo Unit.

The unit has engaged in a public spat with Gordhan since it emerged it had asked him to answer 27 questions related to a unit at the South African Revenue Service (Sars) he helped create.

McBride has slammed the conduct of the Hawks' Crime Against the State Unit, which is the same unit that has questioned Gordhan.

"I think based on the fact that we have been charged for doing our work, I would just suggest that the minister of finance be very careful how he handles issues with them."

McBride says he's ready to challenge the allegations and he's also taken a swipe at Police Minister Nathi Nhleko.

"We are glad that we are at court, so there is no longer allegations, innuendo suggestion and very sweaty presentations in Parliament. Now we have to deal with facts."

The Hawks have declined to comment.